I bought some of these in the shorter style for myself, but they seem to ride down in the back a bit too much. So I ordered these in size 5 for myself. When my husband saw them, he got interested in them as well. So I ordered a size 8 husband to wear. He has a hard time wearing wearing boxers (to loose) or boxer briefs (because they dig in). Besides, I think he looks "VERY" good in them. He can wear them outdoors when working around the house as shorts and no one even notices that they are women's panties (Unless he is wearing certain underwear since the fabric is thin The nude and white really show what color and style underwear he is wearing...lol). I will be ordering more for both of us