I bought two sets for my daughter for Christmas. She has them out on her formal dinning table with her chargers underneath each place setting. They are gorgeous and thick enough to be durable. She does not place in her dishwasher but hand washes them so I can not remark on that issue. She treats them as china and they are beautiful so I do not blame her. They were priced right when I purchased these on black Friday. That should be the normal everyday price because I have seen these in two other stores recently and they were the same price I paid on sale.